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Clash over Grays Athletic's ground plan

A CLASH of sporting codes could happen in Thurrock after options for a new ground for Grays Athletic prompted a caustic response from the Borough's senior rugby club - who say their sport’s future could be cut short if football is given precedence.

 

At a recent meeting with fans, Grays Athletic announced that their plans for a new home in the Borough were based around a plan to move to land adjacent to the existing rugby playing fields in North Grays.

 

However, the rugby club say the land has already been earmarked for their use if they lose part of their existing site for a new Williams Edwards School.

 

That is the proposal outlined in Thurrock Thames Gateway Development Corporation's North Grays masterplan, a project broadly accepted by Thurrock Council, which will assume full planning responsibilities for the area in March, which could leave Grays’ designs on the plot of land in limbo.

 

It does, however, leave open an option to switch their new build plans to a patch of land adjacent to Treetops school, identified in a recent Enquirer report.

 

The Enquirer understands that Treetops, though allocated use of the land that is owned by Thurrock Council, would be receptive to a new stadium build there.

 

Rugby club president Brian Howells (pictured left) contacted the Enquirer to flag up his concerns over future sporting developments in the area - and refuted reports that the rugby club had been involved in discussions with Grays Athletic or the Council.

 

He said: “I wish to express our concern with the presumption that Grays Athletic have been in consultation with Thurrock RFC. This is not the case.  We know nothing of this surprise development, which could prove detrimental to probably the largest sports organisation in Thurrock.

 

“If, in the future, the William Edwards development goes ahead, the land to the north of the club was pencilled in as playing fields, to replace those council pitches lost by the club. With some 18 -19 teams right across the age range, our own facilities are insufficient to contemplate continuation without these extra facilities.”

 

Keith BurnsGrays Athletic chairman Keith Burns has responded by saying he believes the two sports clubs can live and work together.

 

Mr Burns (right) said: “Grays Athletic's ambitions for a re-location to Blackshots should actually prove to be complementary to those of Thurrock Rugby Club. 

 

“We have a supermarket and corner shop scenario; it depends on which you own as to how much you mind the other moving in next door.  Whilst we both want the best for our own clubs, surely the most important factor is extending the leisure and recreation opportunities within the town. 

 

“We are close to securing finance for the most modest of our plans, and are mindful of the assistance offered to us while we have had nowhere to play.  Once we know the scale of project which we can finance, it will be an appropriate time to sit down with the Rugby Club, and the Harriers.  

 

“To do so before would be like discussing the Emperor's new clothes. 

 

“One would have thought that all weather and/or indoor facilities would appeal to all concerned, and be much closer to the original concept of a community multi-sports ‘hub’ development. 

 

“Personally, I see no reason why both schemes could not go ahead simultaneously, an integrated project would offer synergy savings and make much sense, but as Mr Howells is talking to The Enquirer and not me, I really can't comment further.”

Meanwhile another sporting club in the region has also dismissed reports that it has been involved in discussion with Grays about ground use.

 

Grays have identified the former Fords United ground in Romford as a possible interim ground for their use if they have to leave the Borough next season as it seems unlikely that their current ground-share at East Thurrock will be renewed.

 

Grays supporters were told that Grays have secured tenure of the Fords site and that they will refurbish it for their own use and then switch with Romford, who currently ground-share at Aveley.

 

However, Romford chairman Steve Gardener says he has not spoken to Grays about Rush Green and that his only negotiations over the site have been in the past, with the former management of site owners West Ham United.

 

“My contact with West Ham goes back before the current owners took over at the Hammers but I haven't spoken with the new regime.

 

“We would be delighted to move back to Rush Green, as former tenants there under Fords we only moved out because we couldn't secure more than a one year lease which was a requirement for our Ryman League ambitions, but it  is a natural fit for our club to go back there. But if Grays have included us in their proposals I haven't heard anything from them.”

 

A spokesperson for West Ham said that it was not their policy to comment on other clubs but added the Hammers’ own plans for Rush Green, which include a state of the art training centre to replace their existing Chadwell Heath training facility, had not changed.

Date published: 21/12/2011 14:55:01

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Why are you stirring it up again speight?

anon  21/12/2011 16:37:30

Mr speight the land which you suggest for grays new site is wrong it is not land running adjacent to the rugby club it is the large price of land immediately behind the rugby club which runs along the old a13 along the dock road and long lane on the other side! None of which falls on black shots land or rugby club land! The land in question at the moment is farm land!!! The land which you have suggested is inaccurate! I believe you get the full facts before you print stories which are incorrect!

anon  21/12/2011 17:09:39

Never let the facts get in the way of a good news story

fred robot  21/12/2011 18:22:00

The land that has been suggested by Grays to the north of our club has already been promised to the rugby club by the DC. The rugby club is a far bigger and more successful organisation than Grays and is not associated with discredited landgrabbers. The Enquirer story raises real concerns for us, demonstrated by our comments within the story. The Grays chairman has admitted the football club have already lied by saying they have talked to us when they have not.

Dai8s  21/12/2011 22:14:21

Dai8 dont let the actual facts get in the way of a good rant. mr spite wasnt at the meeting , so quite how he can accurately say what was said is beyond me. The Grays chairman never said he had talked to the rugby club , he said he was going to. obviously poison spite managed to get in first. its been obvious for a very long time that petty jealousy from the editor of this rag is getting in the way of objective journalism.

gwam  22/12/2011 00:23:06

Great stuff Neil !! Grays make many statements which rarely are accurate .

anon  22/12/2011 10:22:25

yes but you fail to remember that the DC reverts to Thurrock council in the spring, so therefore any previous aggrement with the DC could be null and void! Christ this whole thing could be fantastic for the area, he said she said doesnt help anyone, we should all be working together to benefit the area not slagging each other off!

anon  22/12/2011 12:49:24

The phrase "stirring it up" is often used by officials and supporters from this football club anybody care to explain in detail as i am confused !

anon  22/12/2011 14:59:05

You are a bitter twisted man Speight,just support your lowly , non supported club and stop being so jealous about everything GAFC...You'll never get near conference status so to carry on your vendata against Grays will just make you more bitter, more twisted and more jealous.You really are getting up my nose now, you silly little man!!!!!!!!!!!!

anon  22/12/2011 17:27:01

I do not remember anybody saying that Romford would definitely move to the Rush Green site. I thought it was suggested that maybe they COULD in the future if they wanted or needed to? I hope Grays move back and as a fan of all sports, I dont understand this clash of codes stuff. Fans will watch GAFC or TRFC or maybe both?

Michael Parker  23/12/2011 19:33:59

Why do Grays keep blaming the press? It wasn't the press that cost them their ground. It wasn't the press that sent them bust. It wasn't the press that saw people like Mick Woodwood take everything the club holds dear and waste it. Why can't Grays ever come out and say what is happening instead of blaming other people? Some of the people close to the club need to wake up and ask their own questions before the club is gone forever. And I don't think the press were playing for Romford on Monday!

anon  28/12/2011 15:54:09

I was with Neil Speight on Monday at our game in Brid and he spoke nothing but highly of Grays FC as a club with a proud history and he can't really understand why people at the club blame him for simply seeking honest answers to valid questions. If people had listened to what he said when he ran the Town Crier in Scarborough, Boro might still have their own ground. I know he would like nothing more than Grays to be successful, but more importantly stable and run properly. Get off his back

SAFC supporter  28/12/2011 15:59:37

Grays are tainted to the core and have no morals dignity and lack class,Mr Speight has never harmed the club his only crime is looking for the truth.

anon  29/12/2011 15:12:52

Cloak and dagger secrecy continues at this once proud club with venom as the clubs only response.The fans cling to any waffle they are fed in the hope all will end well.Stop blaming others and look closer within

anon  29/12/2011 15:28:59

So the likes of cash starved clubs such as Tilbury,Aveley,Thurrock and the Rocks dont fancy renting their ameneties to Grays? Strange very strange.

anon  07/01/2012 18:28:55

grays and their supporters live in cloud cuckoo land. why should thurrock council do anything to help them. they sold their soul to the devil for a few good years and they are now paying the price. my advice is to erase those seasons from their memory bank. micky woodward is to blame and according to my information is still involved along with his mate swallow! the loughton model is another joke as this went into liquidation on dec 23rd of last year. figure it out!!!

anon  03/04/2012 10:26:48

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